Should the Feathercoin Market be on a separate domain?
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[quote name=“chrisj” post=“31825” timestamp=“1382198795”]
[quote author=MrFeathers link=topic=4108.msg31820#msg31820 date=1382194882]
I think we should keep it here for now. Since feathercoin is still small it is important for newcomers to see all of the services that are available for this coin. If the market is somewhere else then they might not find it.
[/quote]That’s a good argument. But if it does stay we need to push even harder to start getting 3rd party services off this website. Remember that it’s not only the Market but also Local Feathercoin, all the stats and the forum too.
One of the first thing someone does when they learn something new about a company/organisation is go to Google and get the outsider’s perspective. Right now that is where we are weakest and it needs attention. I have a do.com task list set up for Developer Relations just send me your email and you’d be more than welcome to help the effort.
[/quote]I am not happy to move the stats, calc or explorer. I was always frustrated having to find sites all over the net for other coins and wondered why the official sites did not do more. With these tools we are providing the information most users want to see. I think that we can safely provide these details.
I can see and understand the reasons to move the market off the main site and will do so if that is the result of the vote.
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[quote name=“MrFeathers” post=“31820” timestamp=“1382194882”]
Since feathercoin is still small it is important for newcomers to see all of the services that are available for this coin.
[/quote]We can have a link to the market from the forum.
So I vote for a move for the reasons mentioned by chrisj. -
You could put it on a separate domain and also keep the link in the top menu.
Or make a ‘links’ section where you can put the marketplace and other suggestions about where to spend your coins. -
[quote name=“Bushstar” post=“31833” timestamp=“1382204481”]
I am not happy to move the stats, calc or explorer. I was always frustrated having to find sites all over the net for other coins and wondered why the official sites did not do more. With these tools we are providing the information most users want to see. I think that we can safely provide these details.I can see and understand the reasons to move the market off the main site and will do so if that is the result of the vote.
[/quote]No I wouldn’t want to move stats and calculator off either, I just think that you have a certain ‘allowance’, there should be only so much hosted on the founder domain and I think things like stats and calc are essential so once you start going in to other things like Market and Host.ftc.com that’s when you have to say it’s time to fly the nest and scaling out across the web.
Otherwise, as stated earlier, it just looks like Feathercoins can only be used Feathercoin.com. Which is bad for customer adoption as well as 3rd party developers.
And since it is so easy to host it on a new domain while maintaining a handy link on the menu, I only see benefits without any real drawbacks.
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[quote name=“sheepson” post=“31841” timestamp=“1382210540”]
You could put it on a separate domain and also keep the link in the top menu.
Or make a ‘links’ section where you can put the marketplace and other suggestions about where to spend your coins.
[/quote]+1 exactly, those things called hyper links sure do come in handy sometimes :)
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Well if you will be moving it (I still hope you will not) [b]do it fast[/b].
We should be glad our market is finally working and you want to move it few days after launch?
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My opinion is churches and religion in general does more harm than any sex toy, I see no reason the marketplace should be moved to keep anyone happy. Maybe add an 18+ section where you have to state you are over 18 to enter because of adult content etc (I know anyone can click a link but if it is really against their beliefs they wont). We can’t change everything and start hiding certain things because 1 group does not agree with it. I can buy hookers, drugs, alcohol, guns etc etc with cash… you don’t see churches refusing to send the collection tray around because cash can be used for naughty things.
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[quote name=“Tony” post=“31846” timestamp=“1382212258”]
My opinion is churches and religion in general does more harm than any sex toy, I see no reason the marketplace should be moved to keep anyone happy.
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I agree it should not be moved to make anyone happy but that wasn’t the argument in favour, the argument in favour was that it would be appealing to 3rd party developers and potential customers because it would make Feathercoin look more distributed. Also there would be no downside to doing it.
What happened with the church is not really a big deal for me, but if we wanted to avoid incidents like that again having things like the market on another domain would help as it wouldn’t be seen as an official endorsement.
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[quote name=“mirrax” post=“31844” timestamp=“1382211394”]
Well if you will be moving it (I still hope you will not) [b]do it fast[/b].We should be glad our market is finally working and you want to move it few days after launch?
[/quote]To be honest I do not want to move it however I have been told that I should so I am putting this poll up. I am too close to make an objective call on this one.
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[quote name=“chrisj” post=“31847” timestamp=“1382212579”]
[quote author=Tony link=topic=4108.msg31846#msg31846 date=1382212258]
My opinion is churches and religion in general does more harm than any sex toy, I see no reason the marketplace should be moved to keep anyone happy.
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I agree it should not be moved to make anyone happy but that wasn’t the argument in favour, the argument in favour was that it would be appealing to 3rd party developers and potential customers because it would make Feathercoin look more distributed. Also there would be no downside to doing it.
What happened with the church is not really a big deal for me, but if we wanted to avoid incidents like that again having things like the market on another domain would help as it wouldn’t be seen as an official endorsement.
[/quote]That’s a fair point, A site like cryptomarketplace.XXX or similar I have no issues with. My post was more a mini rant about the closed mindedness of churches in general… well if we can’t see Tony snorting coke off his hookers for cash it didn’t happen but if he pays in FTC then its bad. none of that happened btw… we paid in LTC :P
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[quote name=“Tony” post=“31850” timestamp=“1382213240”]
we paid in LTC :P
[/quote]There are few things online that make me laugh out loud but that [i]did[/i]… why on earth would you be using LITECOIN!?! :P
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[quote name=“Tony” post=“31850” timestamp=“1382213240”]
[quote author=chrisj link=topic=4108.msg31847#msg31847 date=1382212579]
[quote author=Tony link=topic=4108.msg31846#msg31846 date=1382212258]
My opinion is churches and religion in general does more harm than any sex toy, I see no reason the marketplace should be moved to keep anyone happy.
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I agree it should not be moved to make anyone happy but that wasn’t the argument in favour, the argument in favour was that it would be appealing to 3rd party developers and potential customers because it would make Feathercoin look more distributed. Also there would be no downside to doing it.
What happened with the church is not really a big deal for me, but if we wanted to avoid incidents like that again having things like the market on another domain would help as it wouldn’t be seen as an official endorsement.
[/quote]That’s a fair point, A site like cryptomarketplace.XXX or similar I have no issues with. My post was more a mini rant about the closed mindedness of churches in general… well if we can’t see Tony snorting coke off his hookers for cash it didn’t happen but if he pays in FTC then its bad. none of that happened btw… we paid in LTC :P
[/quote]hahahhahah
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because they wouldn’t accept my PXC :(
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I don’t think it matters one way or another.
The Marketplace will be endorsed, I imagine, by Feathercoin if it is hosted elsewhere anyway. Unless we are not going to endorse it and disclaim some kind of ownership over it? And what message would that give?
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[quote name=“Entimp” post=“31855” timestamp=“1382214257”]
I don’t think it matters one way or another.The Marketplace will be endorsed, I imagine, by Feathercoin if it is hosted elsewhere anyway. Unless we are not going to endorse it and disclaim some kind of ownership over it? And what message would that give?
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This… If there was a 3rd option saying I don’t care either way that would be my choice. -
Back to reality, We are not idealists. Now We are very weak. Therefore, Official should provide a complete service.We should provide a variety of applications. Provides demonstration. All this is in order to promote and advertising .
FTC/BTC Exchange rate fell to 0.00041. Huge fluctuations will seriously affect people’s confidence .
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Just few more votes for [b]NO[/b], please…
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[quote name=“mirrax” post=“31897” timestamp=“1382255043”]
Just few more votes for [b]NO[/b], please…
[/quote]If there are strong objections I would rather this doesn’t go through, it’s more important we are all happy. I can talk about it on Skype if you like too.
I don’t think we need put it on its own domain right away, we can run the market in beta here for a month or so and then launch it full scale with proper marketing with landing pages and promotions once it is out of beta.
I think the public will understand and be grateful that we trialled it on our site first so iron out bugs.
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[quote name=“chrisj” post=“31843” timestamp=“1382210984”]
[quote author=sheepson link=topic=4108.msg31841#msg31841 date=1382210540]
You could put it on a separate domain and also keep the link in the top menu.
Or make a ‘links’ section where you can put the marketplace and other suggestions about where to spend your coins.
[/quote]+1 exactly, those things called hyper links sure do come in handy sometimes :)
[/quote]There’s really no downside to doing it. You put it on it’s own domain, you put a 301 redirect on the current address, and you change the link at the top. It solves more problems than it creates.
The only objections I’ve seen so far is that it would be harder to access, but if it’s still linked to in the same place and the old URL 301’s, wouldn’t that address that concern?
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[quote name=“MrFeathers” post=“32147” timestamp=“1382379765”]
I agree with this and the aforementioned arguments. As long as we keep a link here, I have switched my position in favor of moving the market.
[/quote]I have enabled the ability to change vote :)