FTC's future
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I am still mining / testing and running FTC p2pool
All of the systems and documentation for a core currency is available. A huge amount of investment and also some people have put in tremendous amounts of time and intellectual knowledge with a stable technology base. We need to get back on track with the community and mentor some new members, refine the knowledge base.
I have always been trying to develop a community coin, it has been a lot of effort and investment to get it to this stage. We have mentored and produced documentation in all the necessary areas of the project.
Lets just continue to chip away at the things that need doing. All the expensive things to get us (FTC) to here have been done. It is a maintenance publicity, test and release the new versions.
1. urgent get ftc explorer back up
2. mirror of web site resource
3. start getting some projects moving …
4. the new web site looks great … widen ownership of Github management and website management / automate / document.
I see the work on the forum and community as being a massive ftc achievement.
5. formalise a way of open governance (autonomous?), to widen the support load / finance web site …
As a disabled person who nearly died of cancer, lifes too short for recriminations. It has been an interesting hobby, Technologically, I and others have learnt more than 5 full time jobs!
I can see there is a negative side, and have analysed the reasons for that and for instance many criticised actions would have resulted in worse consequences by inaction.
I still think we have succeeded in having all major pieces of jigsaw of an open coin.
A lot of people put in a lot of effort / investment to get to this stage, it is not much investment to use or continue this project.
+1000
thank god someones head is in the right place.
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To be fair to lizhi he is the only one with the technical knowledge who has stepped up to maintain the core code.
I agree it would be good to discuss some of the changes he is making and come to an agreement on the direction.
Mrwyrm is right tho. We are the community. There is no one else so if you are waiting for someone to do all these things you think we need its not going to happen.
We all welcome any new volunteers who want to start or help on projects. I’m sure mrwyrm would welcome any help on the new website.
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Open Source is still the answer, it’s a shame that our decentralised technology still relies on a centralised organisation to maintain and pay for it. We need many more people to get involved. I’m a better, more confident person with new skills since joining feathercoin, and I know other people can benefit from getting involved too.
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In order to decentralize the development process, we have to split the code up in parts.
In order to have value in our community we have to share so people can go about their business.
I’ll draw up a plan if ppl would like.
Notice: I have interests in two coins, FTC and CAT.
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I’d be very interested to hear your views.
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Kelsey how do you think we can promote the coin?
Your right we have a history and the last remnants of a good name. People may still have some good will towards the coin. But I’d be interested to know your ideas on how we can get people more interested in FTC.
We may even be able to club together and get a small fund going?
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I’ve already volunteered TWICE. Do I really have to spell it out for yall? The new website should be up, period. It doesnt take a genious to run apache as a testbed, the mysql database may need some help though. Ive had beter luck with a live server vs a non-live one with testing a CMS based website.
Im running TWO CMSes right now.Both use MySQL on a Linux host. I dont use 3rd parties or 3rd party hosts.I dont really see the point in using them.
I run southernhedgehogs.org (wp) and southernhedgehogs.org/friends (friendica)
The status pages should be updated, it doesnt take THAT much work to do, the work was done and posted as a forum post already. Cut copy and paste it into place.Theme colors and themes can be changed like clockwork without too much difficulty.
I cant speak for the blockchain site, I havent worked with a blockchain before.Im betting its stalled on some block left orphaned somewhere.
But disecting the QT app shouldnt be THAT difficult. So like I said, where’s the project file? Its obvious that QT designer is used(or should be used) when making our app.The rest from what Im told are resource string literals that get changed. And we should be looking at BTCS code if that is where were headed. So lets go dig up some source project files and get down to it.If youre not using source project files, maybe you should be. Anybody that can code should have access to these files, it will widen the dev base. I seriously doubt only TWO people here know how to code. I dont think QT is that undocumented or difficult that noone knows how to program logic. People can learn. For Christ’s sake I know FreePascal and Lazarus and Im volunteering for some C/QT project. QT is the basis for KDE. Im sure youre probly using some sort of CVS/SVN/GIT system for project management, if not you probly should be.This is how its done people.Its not rocket science, its computer science.
Lets get our hands dirty.
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Wow yes that’s great stuff. Yes to the offer of help yes to the git point we are using github and just a massive yes to your energy.
I’m a coder but I’m a java guy. So c/c++ and qt are a little alien. But I’m up for helping out if I get any free time.
(I’ve a daughter due to be born in like 3 weeks Lol)
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Kelsey how do you think we can promote the coin?
Your right we have a history and the last remnants of a good name. People may still have some good will towards the coin. But I’d be interested to know your ideas on how we can get people more interested in FTC.
We may even be able to club together and get a small fund going?
I do:
qmake
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and there it is.
we need a plan.
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i’d be more then happy to put serious time (rather then just talk) into this coin, if everyone was on the same page with the way forward. if the plans to go POS i’m not wasting my time, would bail and not touch it with a 10 foot poll.
Our previous structure of a central team following centralised instructions seriously limits how many people can join in, it presumes that the a core dev is correct and he alone chooses direction and therefore anyone else who disagrees is against him and therefore against the entire community. That’s a horrible way to shut the door on people’s faces for caring and having an opinion. I’d like to be in a position where disagreement is an opportunity for open source experimentation, so whilst people may disagree with a direction, there should be support for both sides for the disagreement. To these people with ideas, we should be saying "fork the coin, give things a go on a testnet, and as Kevlar put it “what can we do to support you?” Only then will we have a positive, inclusive, community movement we can be proud of. :)
Join us, show us your direction and I’ll do everything in my power to give you the support you need to run with your ideas.
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thanks MrWyrm for your support.
i’m not trying to be a dictator with this, just good to get clear if ftc plan is inline with mine, before i commit too much time, as well as too avoid needless future conflict.
i’d be happy to freely give my time to help with ftc, however the POS idea seems to be constantly proping up (ie look at shadowhh32 and Lizhi’s recent comments), again almost seems like a done deal.
also where is Bushstar? chrisj?
hell be good to have a roll call of those who are active/wish to become more active?
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I see the Feathercoin website is using Wordpress, I use this very often if I can be of assistance in any way please let me know I am very happy to volunteer some time.
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I’m working on the new site this week. I could really use some help with the content. Feel free to drop me a PM.
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yet again another one of Lizhi posts scares me (pow alternative meeting thread).
step back please everyone, todate no ones even given a reason for ftc existance, yet now all i see is adhoc attempts at survival, and that appoarch will insure ftc doesn’t survive (in any meaningful fashion).
mud map ok guys.
- stop any and all core changes (simple and temporary).
then
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roll call on whos still around, skills and what they can do/offer etc
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stated goal/purpose for feathercoin
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plan of action
adhoc approaches don’t work, failing to plan is planning to fail.
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Again I see a lot of Face slamming. Can we knock this shit off and get back to work?
I have the requested UI changes in the works but Im having difficulty getting all the QT Creator ‘units’ in place. What I have uses a Android external lib on runtime, which isnt what we want. The other setup I have isnt finding any of the android SDK/NDKs I have. I have yet to work out the OSX/iOS build environment variables. Ming32 lib environment isnt setup yet either. What I have is Linux 64/32 build environment.
Change is enevitable. DEAL WITH IT. THe ui is drab looking right now, it needs the facelift. POW and DPOS changes are still pending, I see a lot of code elsewhere that hasnt been gone thru yet. I see a lot of proposals and no code changes YET. So quit your bitching about we are going this way or that way when WE HAVENT GONE THERE YET.
DPOS would add in the voting system, I dont see the harm in it.Changes proposed would also ease mining.
I take it you havent mined anything in awhile…
We have people TRYING to get on board or that are already onboard with the code and website. I still see some lack of code changes. And the mobile site is just broken.We are missing images on the main site again. We are trying to get ideas to propose to the code team to push to git. I see a lot of back treading when change needs to happen. The CODE IS OLD. There has only been ONE change in how many months? So when do we call this project DEAD? The less changes, the more DEAD we are. And Im just talking about GIT here, not the website or API. We have NO blockchain explorer, a dead exchange rate, an app which needs some changes, and website which need some help.
Either get onboard or quit bitching. Some of us dont have access right now to make the changes needed.
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All protocol changes should go to the back burner.
We need momentum not band-aids.
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We have NO blockchain explorer, a dead exchange rate, an app which needs some changes, and website which need some help.
Either get onboard or quit bitching. Some of us dont have access right now to make the changes needed.
This is where we are going wrong IMO. Feathercoin is a technology, other than the blockchain it’s not a service provider. Peter is a service provider, the website, forum, API and Blockexplorer are all services he provides, I’m presuming at a loss. This isn’t a sustainable model. I’d like to see more services run by trusted third parties and I’d like to see them cover their own costs.
Going back to DPoS, service providers would logically make good delegates, so the very same people who provide services for the community benefit from the mining rewards rather than GPU/ASIC/Energy companies.
I’m currently of the opinion that Feathercoin’s current chain should remain PoW with the same inflation model, it was designed that way as people have invested in that model. However I’d really like to see us experiment more and create a second feathercoin DPoS chain from genesis. For this to be fair, the second chain would need it’s own tokens and tokens would be non-transferable. We can then look to support our infrastructure and technology and look to develop cool features like Decentralised exchanges and counter party assets and many other cool things.
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So what are you proposing? The website can be run by a few individuals. The blockchain explorer as mentioned on another post(or explorers) is up but nobody knows its up because of all the dead links. We need to point somewhere.
https ://coinplorer.com/ftc
https ://bchain.info/FTC
https ://bitinfocharts.com/feathercoin/explorer
(Lizhi) http://block.ftc-c.com/
So who is going to maintain the site and forum? Someone else? That SHOULD be done in house. Preferably by more than one person.
The blockexplorer I just mentioned, leaving the API. Lately the sites seem kind of slow.
Maybe we need a maintenance FTC url to keep the site and forum going? I dont know about yall but only pay around $10/mo with dreamhost for the entire domain and ftp server.
$50/mo … $100/mo… Still think we need a donation link(possibly in BTC). Im mean its not like we pull funds from miners to stay alive or anything…
Forking anew can be done. Theres a BIG GIANT button on Github just for this.
Im only working on branding and some semantical bitcoin->feathercoin internal changes.Seems we copied the bitcoin code but never rebranded it.
We still had bitcoin logos lying around in places…
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There is no house. You can’t have in-house. Feathercoin is a technology. This website is a related service run by a few trusted individuals, one of which is me. But don’t let my admin badge fool you, I’m not in charge, it’s open source software. Feel free to contribute to the code
I’m just suggesting an alternative. A separation of services and technology. No ‘official’ services. Just competing service providers.
It would work brilliantly under DPoS because there would be a direct incective to provide the best class of service. I expect delegates to be highly competitive.
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All protocol changes should go to the back burner.
We need momentum not band-aids.
+1
