Upcoming AMD 9000 series and 7000 series sales
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Hey all, for those of you that don’t follow hardware the AMD 9000 series GPUs will be coming out within the next two months (but probably in September). AMD has decided to skip the 8000 series to combat NVIDIAs current 700 series cards. NVIDIA has also recently stated that they will be jumping in Q1 2014 to their 800 series already which has me curious.
Anywho, if you are looking to buy some GPUs to mine scrypt they are very cheap. You can find the good 7950 from $175-240 depending on MIR and card, and 7970s are going for $275-350. I am planning on picking up one or two more 7000 cards myself and waiting on the 9000 series. If you guys see crazy deals on 7000 cards feel free to post them, it seems with the price drops the 7950 is still king on hash/$.
I have been reading up on the 9000 series cards and apparently AMD is planning on making a titan competitor at around $600. If they can manage to do that I could totally see 1 -1.5 MH/s per dual slot card but single GPU, which would be amazing. This would also be achieved with probably 2x 8pin connectors or less, and the rest of the 9000s should be leaps and bounds more efficient than the 7000s. What do you think the highest single GPU hash rate will be in the 9000 series cards (remember they scrapped the 8000 series).
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Depends if they continues the trend regarding number of stream processors.
7970 have 2048, while 7990 has 2x2048.
A big bump here would be really nice.However they might aim more toward nvidia way… It will get exciting and im ready to put in more money if the right card comes=)
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The Hd8k series was an OEM rebrand of the HD7k series, not for retail, same specs as HD7k series.
HD 9k series “Volcanic islands” or what were interested in, is “hawaii” (HD9970/R9 D970/w.e top of the line is going to be called) are rumored to have 2560 SP, a core clock of around 1GHZ, 3GB of memory running at 6000MHZ effective.
Expect to see 15-30% increase in performance over an HD7970.
I would not expect 1MH off one card.
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The Hd8k series was an OEM rebrand of the HD7k series, not for retail, same specs as HD7k series.HD 9k series “Volcanic islands” or what were interested in, is “hawaii” (HD9970/R9 D970/w.e top of the line is going to be called) are rumored to have 2560 SP, a core clock of around 1GHZ, 3GB of memory running at 6000MHZ effective.
Expect to see 15-30% increase in performance over an HD7970.
I would not expect 1MH off one card.
720MH’s(average) with an increase of 25% = 900 MH’s
[/quote]I don’t think we will see a huge improvement in the 9970 but probably around 20%. However, if the card they choose to directly compete with the titan is the 9970 then I would expect closer to a 35-50% increase over the 7970. I am actually really interested in the power consumption more than the hash rates. If I could maintain my current hash rate and decrease power usage by 30-40% the 9000s would be golden.
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That would be nice, unfortunately the HD9k series will still be manufactured on 28nm, maybe we’ll see 20nm in late 2015/early 2016.
However the 28nm node is extremely mature and depending on the tweaks made to the architecture we should see a slight decrease in power consumption, the cards will still have the same tdp as the 7970 though.20nm is where we will see much bigger reduction in power consumption :D
Honestly am thinking of holding off upgrading till 20nm, have to try to fight the upgrade itch. -
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That would be nice, unfortunately the HD9k series will still be manufactured on 28nm, maybe we’ll see 20nm in late 2015/early 2016.
However the 28nm node is extremely mature and depending on the tweaks made to the architecture we should see a slight decrease in power consumption, the cards will still have the same tdp as the 7970 though.20nm is where we will see much bigger reduction in power consumption :D
[/quote]I don’t care if power consumption stays the same in fact if they keep it around 250w it will be optimal. I am more interested in the jump in graphics computing power if AMD wants to compete on the super high end GK110s that are still on a 28nm process. A 7970 can throw out about 4TFLOPS, 680 can do about 3TFLOPS, and a titan can do about 4.5TFLOPS. AMD will not release the 9000 series unless it can compete with the GK110s in terms of graphics, with the above numbers in mind and a 7970 and 680 being roughly the same for graphics, I would expect to see a jump of 25-30% in hash rate for a 9970 and a 40-60% increase for the card that goes against the titan. With all of these improvements the power consumption will remain the same or go down and keep pay off rates for these cards down.
When AMD scrapped the 8000s, you know they have to have something special in the 9000s to warrant it. Also nvidia has already announced their 800 series will be q1 next year, something tells me they know AMD is going to smoke them and they will in return do the same within a few months. AMD is looking to really hurt nvidia in the GPU market now that they own the console market.
I think I am going to wait another 2 weeks before deciding to buy 7000s or 9000s. But one thing is for sure, I will be dumping 2k into GPUs within a month. My work is building a data center to host whatever for customers and I might end up working a deal for them to host my rigs in their data center pretty cheap.
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Guess it all depends what you want to do with them.
I’m in doubt AMD will release a “big die” card, we would have heard some sort of rumor, I think AMD is focusing on market share right now.
I’m all for a “big die” gpu, don’t get me wrong, it just isn’t how they do things.Rumors are HD 9970/R9 D970, w.e they are going to call it will be on par with Titan, then more increase in performance with software tweaks.
Last summer they stated they were focusing on performance through drivers, that is why we didnt see a traditional yearly new gpu release.
I’m willing to bet some FTC they are going to stick with that route.