Scryptcloud.com - 100% Scam - Details inside...
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Damn sorry guys…i hope all goes well for the community. I was hoping this want going to be a scam but now its all too real.
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[quote name=“svennand” post=“54687” timestamp=“1390588535”]
I just contacted KNCMiner to let them know about the case, that the unit was purchased using illegal funds (scam/fraud), and that it might be an claim/police matter.
Urging them to be carefull about delivering goods until this dispute has been resolved.Ill let you guys know if i get an answer from them.
I do not expect em to be able to do anything, but if they can at least hold of on the goods til the proper legal actions have been made its a step in the right direction.
[/quote]did they confirm or not if the unit was paid for?
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[quote name=“svennand” post=“54687” timestamp=“1390588535”]
I just contacted KNCMiner to let them know about the case, that the unit was purchased using illegal funds (scam/fraud), and that it might be an claim/police matter.
Urging them to be carefull about delivering goods until this dispute has been resolved.Ill let you guys know if i get an answer from them.
I do not expect em to be able to do anything, but if they can at least hold of on the goods til the proper legal actions have been made its a step in the right direction.
[/quote]They will sell their miner nonetheless whether it’s to him or anyone else. The fact you warned them has to be saved on record for any future evidence when did did deliver their miner to him or did not freeze the purchase amount. So either phonecalls or e-mails, please save them.
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[quote name=“spynappels” post=“54689” timestamp=“1390588724”]
There is enough evidence he really is in Ireland, near Dublin, although not at the address he published.I would have to +1 the legal route suggestions, but beware of which branch of the Gardai you involve as local coppers are unlikely to be able to help much.
Let me know if you need help with analysing email headers etc.
[/quote]Considering some purchasers were in the US you have a potential fraud-by-wire case going, too. That’s FBI involvement.
[quote=finalbillybong]I want my funds back as much as anyone else that has been scammed but guys, our coins are gone never to return.[/quote]
Absolutely realistic and no one can be faulted for it, but at the same time I feel it’s the moral obligation of anyone effected to make this process as painful as possible for the scammer in question.
Oh, and anyone with a faster machine and connection than I would probably want to go ahead and make a PDF of his entire post history so that you have something sequential and timestamped and shows it’s not been altered. Before he goes through and edits all his posts removing or altering information. There is a backup of the forum database that can be parsed through if he does pull that, but still. Saves a little work if it comes to pass.
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[quote=finalbillybong]I want my funds back as much as anyone else that has been scammed but guys, our coins are gone never to return.[/quote]
Absolutely realistic and no one can be faulted for it, but at the same time I feel it’s the moral obligation of anyone effected to make this process as painful as possible for the scammer in question.
[/quote]For me when something like this happens its not even about the money, its the principle - i will never let this lye.
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[quote name=“Kirjokansi” post=“54706” timestamp=“1390590122”]
MrHamilton you just got rep from me.
[/quote]thank you
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First of all, I am starting the mining, second its less than 10,000 euro in total and 3rd some of you are claiming to have purchased contracts with me but actually have not.
I will have pictures tonight of the first miner, may it be small but I will buy more, payouts will begin for batch one 7 days from now, I was annoyed with Mr. Hamilton for threatening me and thats why I said the things I said, I will make a new thread for the picture proofs shortly…
And there has been no wire fraud here…
You can contact me on skype: sbw92@outlook.com
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[quote name=“mhamilton79” post=“54695” timestamp=“1390589236”]
[quote author=svennand link=topic=7170.msg54687#msg54687 date=1390588535]
I just contacted KNCMiner to let them know about the case, that the unit was purchased using illegal funds (scam/fraud), and that it might be an claim/police matter.
Urging them to be carefull about delivering goods until this dispute has been resolved.Ill let you guys know if i get an answer from them.
I do not expect em to be able to do anything, but if they can at least hold of on the goods til the proper legal actions have been made its a step in the right direction.
[/quote]did they confirm or not if the unit was paid for?
[/quote]Haven’t got any response yet, will post response when i do.
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[quote name=“FTClover” post=“54713” timestamp=“1390590627”]
First of all, I am starting the mining, second its less than 10,000 euro in total and 3rd some of you are claiming to have purchased contracts with me but actually have not.I will have pictures tonight of the first miner, may it be small but I will buy more, payouts will begin for batch one 7 days from now, I was annoyed with Mr. Hamilton for threatening me and thats why I said the things I said, I will make a new thread for the picture proofs shortly…
And there has been no wire fraud here…
You can contact me on skype: sbw92@outlook.com
[/quote]so start to communicate better please because it is really starting to be very confusing…thank you
because i do have a contract with you like many other from this forum
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I think FTCLover is not a scammer , he only have difficulties sorting thing out , I will wait patiently for the mining to begin or for the refunds :P
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So, here is exactly what has happened:
I came up with the idea to sell mining contracts for these rigs, I was hoping to make enough bitcoin to cover the cost of the equipment in pre-orders like every other company taking pre-orders, but I didn’t take enough to cover the cost of the whole operation, so now I’m panicking and trying to come up with excuses because the bitcoins are no longer in my possession, I can however exchange what I have for bitcoin over the next week or so… I did not start this project as a scam whatsoever, I never intended to upset anyone, but I am a good man and I will pay everyone back over the next couple of months out of my wages if I have too! I’m sorry for making such a balls of it but I messed up and I want to fix it!
So please give me just a few days to get this sorted out! I will speak to anyone who would like to talk via skype: sbw92@outlook.com
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[quote name=“FTClover” post=“54713” timestamp=“1390590627”]
First of all, I am starting the mining, second its less than 10,000 euro in total and 3rd some of you are claiming to have purchased contracts with me but actually have not.I will have pictures tonight of the first miner, may it be small but I will buy more, payouts will begin for batch one 7 days from now, I was annoyed with Mr. Hamilton for threatening me and thats why I said the things I said, I will make a new thread for the picture proofs shortly…
And there has been no wire fraud here…
You can contact me on skype: sbw92@outlook.com
[/quote]Don’t make me laugh now - ask for for money - let your customers wait 1 day more, 1 week more, 1 month more - delete your personal info the webs. Yup you’re doing great!
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What hardware have you bought so far? Perhaps its sell-able, then do the refunds and put it down to experience.
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[quote name=“Pryderi” post=“54726” timestamp=“1390591431”]
[quote author=FTClover link=topic=7170.msg54713#msg54713 date=1390590627]
First of all, I am starting the mining, second its less than 10,000 euro in total and 3rd some of you are claiming to have purchased contracts with me but actually have not.I will have pictures tonight of the first miner, may it be small but I will buy more, payouts will begin for batch one 7 days from now, I was annoyed with Mr. Hamilton for threatening me and thats why I said the things I said, I will make a new thread for the picture proofs shortly…
And there has been no wire fraud here…
You can contact me on skype: sbw92@outlook.com
[/quote]Don’t make me laugh now - ask for for money - let your customers wait 1 day more, 1 week more, 1 month more - delete your personal info the webs. Yup you’re doing great!
[/quote]Yeah I’m not that smart, I had no idea what else to do… but I do want to resolve it…
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[quote name=“FTClover” post=“54725” timestamp=“1390591394”]
So, here is exactly what has happened:I came up with the idea to sell mining contracts for these rigs, I was hoping to make enough bitcoin to cover the cost of the equipment in pre-orders like every other company taking pre-orders, but I didn’t take enough to cover the cost of the whole operation, so now I’m panicking and trying to come up with excuses because the bitcoins are no longer in my possession, I can however exchange what I have for bitcoin over the next week or so… I did not start this project as a scam whatsoever, I never intended to upset anyone, but I am a good man and I will pay everyone back over the next couple of months out of my wages if I have too! I’m sorry for making such a balls of it but I messed up and I want to fix it!
So please give me just a few days to get this sorted out! I will speak to anyone who would like to talk via skype: sbw92@outlook.com
[/quote]Don’t I remember you saying you inherited some money and that was paying for the equipment? Or am I dreaming?
I do hope you keep your word. Some of us don’t really have the funds to loose. I personally have just had the birth of my first child and the 400ish FTC I paid you would come in very handy right about now to cover some costs…
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[quote name=“FTClover” post=“54725” timestamp=“1390591394”]
So, here is exactly what has happened:I came up with the idea to sell mining contracts for these rigs, I was hoping to make enough bitcoin to cover the cost of the equipment in pre-orders like every other company taking pre-orders, but I didn’t take enough to cover the cost of the whole operation, so now I’m panicking and trying to come up with excuses because the bitcoins are no longer in my possession, I can however exchange what I have for bitcoin over the next week or so… I did not start this project as a scam whatsoever, I never intended to upset anyone, but I am a good man and I will pay everyone back over the next couple of months out of my wages if I have too! I’m sorry for making such a balls of it but I messed up and I want to fix it!
So please give me just a few days to get this sorted out! I will speak to anyone who would like to talk via skype: sbw92@outlook.com
[/quote]Cut the crap for once and tell them the real deal. You keep making promises which are just causing rumors and people to panic.
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I am not trying to buy more time, that is exactly what happened, I will post a full list of everyone I owe bitcoins too in about 5 minutes!
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[quote name=“Kirjokansi” post=“54732” timestamp=“1390591814”]
[quote author=ghitzafunny link=topic=7170.msg54722#msg54722 date=1390591214]
I think FTCLover is not a scammer , he only have difficulties sorting thing out , I will wait patiently for the mining to begin or for the refunds :P
[/quote]At this point, considering what is said in the OP, I’d say it’s a strong chance he is and whatever he’s saying is for trying to buy time.
You just need to choose what is believable. Remember that him posting a picture of a one machine mining is not proof. It’s just a PC mining. Most people have a PC that can mine when it comes to crypto’s as a hobby.
From my point of view (still not invested, still don’t care) MrHamilton79 has very little reasons to lie while FTClover should be thinking very fast and very carefully at this point and best he can do is trying to buy time.
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Gotta say this as it stand smells like buying time.
Soo you got alot of BTC from pre purchase of hashing power, didn’t you use any of it for actually buying the hardware?
In case you did, please post picture of the merchandise with your nickname written on a note (proof that its your picture), i do expect to see the hardware that you listed on the website and not some home computer with a geforce card :P
In case you didn’t, then what you have done is considered a fraud. You got money for a project, then went and spent the money on something else. As stated earlier in this thread that is seen upon as fraud by the government.I do hope you will start refunding people asap.
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[quote name=“FTClover” post=“54729” timestamp=“1390591755”]
Yeah I’m not that smart, I had no idea what else to do… but I do want to resolve it…
[/quote]Before this becomes a shitstorm, then, you need to itemize a priority list.1. You’re claiming that people are claiming to have paid you that haven’t, well, alright. Based on the info you gave from the start and what you allocated where, all you need to do is post the transaction list from what amounts you got from what addresses. If it matches the amount you originally claim to have sold we can compare those against the addresses of the claimants.
2. Go into that thread that deals with technical issues. [url=http://forum.feathercoin.com/index.php/topic,7102.0.html]click here[/url], but make summary posts after every few contributions to it to verify who paid and who didn’t. While there, see who wants to stick with you or who is requesting a refund. Separate these into two lists.
3. The list of people wanting to stick with you will be smaller. Allocate what hardware was supposed to be allocated to them and focus on getting that running. Better yet, call on one of these locals with experience to come and assist if they’re willing. This gives you instant physical credibility and can back up what you’re saying now while they can focus on at least getting the hardware up (doesn’t have to be pretty) while you deal with these paperwork issues. [b]I will throw $30 of FTC to whatever experienced member in good standing here that’s willing to travel up to you in order to make that happen. Anyone that wants to contribute to that is encouraged, but whatever, it’s what I got allocated for stuff like this.[/b] [i]Mind you, I don’t even have a vested interest in this at all.[/i] But I do care about what happens with FTC branding and alongside it to support [i]you[/i], even if indirectly, if you stay and maintain legitimacy.
4. The list of who wants out, if you have additional equipment beyond what took care of of who seeks to stick with your program, prepare to sell those. It would be my preference that you list them on the Feathercoin Market or Coingig or whatever and instead of putting in one of your addresses for the receive, one of our forums’ escrow people uses one of their addresses to verify deposit. This makes it double escrow. This will be good to keep anyone else from doubting your motives.
5. That’ll get you back to a manageable position. Go.
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HopeStillFlies…
Just thumbs up!